Sure, much of television is very smart, But there are parts of TV that richly explore the taxonomy of stupidity in a way that few ever pause to appreciate. Let us salute the many kinds of TV dumb.
Virtually all tv is dumb - especially faux noise.
I haven't watched network TV in years, other than if someting of particular interest is on. Thank God for cable - History, Discovery, Science Channel, National Geo. I have never seen any of the shows mentioned, nor do I want to.
If you are looking for intelligence, you won't find it on tv.
Yah and blogging all day makes you smaRT
I didn't see any Fox shows listed, in my opinion all their shows are dumb, Simpsons, Family Guy, American Dad...the list goes on
And this may be one of the dumbest articles ever written.
Hey Brad - that's exactly what I was going to say. I actually looked foward to reading it and was surprised at how dumb it was. It could have been interesting.
While there is certainly some truth to this article it sounded more like NBC's pathetic way of trying to bash other networks and their shows. The only thing NBC has going for it is Thursday night & that is even questionable. Get over yourselves NBC - other networks have good shows too.
"American Idol", need I say more...
I can't lie. I've been watching Public T.V. both channel 11 and 20 here in Chicago. I do watch local news and weather , then I turn to Channel 23 and 26 ( I think there are 2 others) to watch the 'OLD SHOWS". Lucy, Bewitched,Bob Newhart-- on Saturday or Sunday they have George Burns,Jack Benny
ALL THIS NEW STUFF IS JUST full of cheating husbands,sex and things that are just not funny. There is nothing interesting to watch. It's all garbage.
Thank your for validating my long term insistence that Two and a Half Men is the most idiotic show on television, not to mention its star is a liar, a cheat, a gambler, a druggie, an alcoholic, a wife abuser and the worst - Not Funny. He is also the highest paid actor on TV. It's a sick, sad world. I would cancel my cable if my wife would let me. Too many soap operas to tape though. Maybe I should add her to the list and cancel my relationship too.
lol!!
I think Two and a Half Men is entertaining, I have never seen or heard reference to the characters doing drugs. I do agree about all the reality crap shows out there, I would include Desperate Housewives. I prefer to watch as mentioned above Discovery, learning Channel, History and NatGeo. Dumbest shows: Gossip Girl, The Hills, 90120, any show with blonde divas whining and getting cars in return. Cribs, Pimp My Ride....I could go on.
I don't know what kinnd of world you are living in but in mine and almost everyone I know think that it is one of the funniest shows out there. Hate to be in your state of mind.
How could that show about EARL not be included in this list??
Because that show is funny, original, and good.
your name tells me all I need to know about that comment
Earl is on NBC and the article is on ......
Need I say more?
Sounds like the author is just a bit threatened by the attractive women on Two and a Half Men: a feminazi who is too homely to compete?
And why are there so many "reality" shows focused on incredibly dull, talentless dimwits none of us care about? FlavorFlav, Girls Next Door, Kimora, Tori Spelling, on and on and on and on and.....ad nauseum. The world is full of interesting, fascinating, talented, creative people we could actually LEARN something from and be inspired by. Come on TV....get with it. TV is SUPPOSED to be full of creative thinkers, so why offer audiences so much nothingness? You can do MUCH better.
NWScott,
Schadenfreude.
You're not supposed to learn anything from the babysitter. Not educational anyways.
To pretend that only some of TV plumbs the depths of stupid clearly indicates what Linda Holmes does with her spare time.
I will steal a previous post and add my own thought:
If you are looking for intelligence, you won't find it on tv.
And if you're looking for smart, you certainly won't turn to MSNBC.
Hahahahahahaha. Good commonsense.
So, commonsense, what does that say about you....
I find that men like these stupid shows. Get this, I can't get my stupid husband to stop watching old episodes of the Three Stooges and Beverly Hillbillies. Talk about moronic!
Why don't you divorce him if you think he's such an idiot?
Hey Susan..
what does it say for you that your husband is stupid; you're the one that married him. Wanna call someone stupid, look in the mirror.
the stooges are great comedy, moronic writers can't write anything original theses days,it's called slapstick. the bev hills is a great show, irene ryan( granny) was awsome, a true southerner till the end,she was always wanting to shoot the yankees.
Wow, I hope your husband doesn't read this. Nasty way to talk about him.
For someone who thinks these shows are dumb, she sure knows a lot about them and attributes a lot of time to writing about them. Amazing what some people do for a living, and get paid for.
WOW
Dumb is in the eye of the beholder. I enjoy two and half men, it's one of those shows that understands visual gags and low humor - not "dumb" humor. I'd argue that "The Office" uses much of the same type of comedy, yet it's included as a good show. Why? Since when is sleeping with a office salesperson any lower than sleeping with car salesperson (happened on respective shows). Samantha who? How long will that gag last - eventually it will need to end as people tire of ongoing "who am I". I do agree that there are dumb shows out there, and I belive every reality show fits the bill. Again, this is my eye - and apparently millions of people disagree with me. I can live with that, and with your list.
As Jeff says,
WOW
Nearly since it's inception, television has been called the"Boob Tube" and the "Idiot Box". Recently, most of the TV creators and writers have not even lived up to those levels of quality.
I agree that most reality shows are geared toward the 2-digit IQ audience. However, most modern sitcoms and dramas are lot sharper and wittier than those of 20 and 30 years ago. Try watching an episode of Gilligan's Island, Happy Days, Lavern and Shirley, Knight Rider, Dukes of Hazzard, etc. It's hard to believe they were on at prime time.
I'm guessing the writer has never actually seen an episode of Two and a Half Men and instead made a snap judgment based on the title and star that it must be low brow humor along the lines of Married with Children. The show wins Emmys because writers and diretors from Frasier and comedic veterans with good timing make it clever and witty.
Two and a Half Men actually has some very smart dialogue. My objection is it's filled with double entendres and blatant sexual references with a kid on the show. I am kind of shocked sometimes that they can say stuff like that on network TV.
Matt - Gilligan's Island is the best. Who would rather be stranded with? Mary Ann or Ginger.
Ginger, oh man Tina louise and Julie Newmar, even at seven I knew I wanted to get her out of that Catwoman outfit. Not quite sure what I would have done at that age, but the urge was there.
I'm a Mary Ann guy
Gotta disagree with the article. Survivor is an extremely dumb show, filled with dumb people, watched by dumb people, and produced by dumb people.
But these dumb shows exist so you can temporarily relax. I like to watch the shows just to temporarily take my mind off the disturbing image of seeing a child's chalk outline on the road from being gunned down on the 6pm news or all the news is gloom, doom, increased taxes ect..
So you think 30 Rock, The Office, and Samantha Who, are funnier than Two & A Half Men? This has got to be the biggest joke of an article I have read in a long time! The three shows that you mentioned are by far the stupidest, dumbest, dullest, over rated @!$%# on TV. Ya, Two and A Half is old comedy, but, you think in to days world people want to be told and shown how stupid they are, in those other sittings. AT least we all know that it is just made up stupid comedy, and doesn't try to be anything else. HELLO! That's why it wins awards and people watch it.
Sure, much of television is very smart, But there are parts of TV that richly explore the taxonomy of stupidity in a way that few ever pause to appreciate. Let us salute the many kinds of TV dumb.
I disagree. It's not just much of television, but the majority of television. I think the majority of ttelevision has always been stupid, dumb, idiotic, inane, etc. Even attempts to create more enlightened programming and networks have been eventually "dumbed down."
Sometimes it's good to just relax and not take things too seriously, but then it often become a lazy habit and predisposition. I find it very annoying to even talk to people who cannot hold on to an intelligent conversation or keep focused for prolonged discussion. With television, and to some aspect with the internet, we have created that outcome.
What I do seem to notice, is that habits and market shares have seemed to change with the evolution of American television from the old big three networks (ABC, CBS, NBC), public television (PBS) and a slew of small independents. Now you have a myriad of specialized cable/ satellite networks catering to every special interest, plus digital video recorders like TiVo. This seems to have created a great divide between what people watch and how they spend time with their television. Some people gravitate towards those idiotic, anti-intellectual shows; whereas, others, like myself, cannot satiate themselves with enough news, information, movies and documentaries. I am often dumbfounded by which shows most people find themselves preoccupied. Many of the most popular shows which most Americans watch, I almost never have viewed. I think there are others just like me.
Think about it, because I know that when I often talk to people at work or elsewhere these days, we don't necessarily have the same point of reference. This is the new American society, where it seems that there is less of a common cultural base than what was before. I believe this also has a larger social implication in our society, such as in politics and other social values.
I agree, I don't watch network televison either. No soaps during the day, no prime time at night, I watch PBS most of the time or BBC reruns or some of the old reruns like lucy,bewitched and a few others like that. The new television shows for the most part, stink big time.
And "Reallity TV" that sounds like an idea from one of Harry Harrison's Stainless Steal rat books, if I am not mistaken. It was something to keep the idle masses entertained so they wouldn't cause trouble for the government or notice what it was up to. I'd rather read the book! And keep an eye on the government!
Sure, much of television is very smart, But there are parts of TV that richly explore the taxonomy of stupidity in a way that few ever pause to appreciate. Let us salute the many kinds of TV dumb.
I disagree. It's not just much of television, but the majority of television. I think the majority of ttelevision has always been stupid, dumb, idiotic, inane, etc. Even attempts to create more enlightened programming and networks have been eventually "dumbed down."
Sometimes it's good to just relax and not take things too seriously, but then it often become a lazy habit and predisposition. I find it very annoying to even talk to people who cannot hold on to an intelligent conversation or keep focused for prolonged discussion. With television, and to some aspect with the internet, we have created that outcome.
What I do seem to notice, is that habits and market shares have seemed to change with the evolution of American television from the old big three networks (ABC, CBS, NBC), public television (PBS) and a slew of small independents. Now you have a myriad of specialized cable/ satellite networks catering to every special interest, plus digital video recorders like TiVo. This seems to have created a great divide between what people watch and how they spend time with their television. Some people gravitate towards those idiotic, anti-intellectual shows; whereas, others, like myself, cannot satiate themselves with enough news, information, movies and documentaries. I am often dumbfounded by which shows most people find themselves preoccupied. Many of the most popular shows which most Americans watch, I almost never have viewed. I think there are others just like me.
Think about it, because I know that when I often talk to people at work or elsewhere these days, we don't necessarily have the same point of reference. This is the new American society, where it seems that there is less of a common cultural base than what was before. I believe this also has a larger social implication in our society, such as in politics and other social values.
And how about Radio. It's leaning towards a similar predisposition
Try public radio.
I use to listen to NPR all the time... but then it became like "over-intellectualizing," which I find almost as dumb as outright dumbness. I admit that I can be quite intense and intellectual myself... but I don't t like people who can't cut to the chase and crystallize their thoughts into something relevant and meaningful. I have never been one to play the game of trivial pursuit, either.
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